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its bad to sin · Dec 15, 2009, 04:32 PM // 16:32

so i was watching some GVGs and it seems like some monks do it but im not sure if its aginst the rules or not.

I have a prgram on my computer where i can make 1 button do multiple things. So my question is can i make 1 button cancel the action so i can switch to a wepon set really quick then use a skill all by pressing 1 button, is that aginst any rules?

NOTE: i did not have to download anything for this as it was already on my computer when i bought it.

IninefingersI · Dec 15, 2009, 04:46 PM // 16:46

I don't think it's illegal. Most gaming keyboards and mice have macroing capabilities. I believe even the Zboard endorced by Anet does it. If you can do it with those, I don't see why you couldn't do the same thing with something like AutoHotKey.

its bad to sin · Dec 15, 2009, 04:57 PM // 16:57

its actully not even a gaming keyboard its on my laptop but its a program on the laptop that allows me to do it if that makes any difference

Eragon Zarroc · Dec 15, 2009, 05:01 PM // 17:01

technically, it's enhancing ur reaction time using automation and should not be allowed, but there isn't really any way that it can be detected with 100% certainty.

IninefingersI · Dec 15, 2009, 05:08 PM // 17:08

I wouldn't worry about it if I was you. If they were worried about people running simple macros, 90% of the people in HB would have been banned.

Dzjudz · Dec 15, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48

Macros such as the OP describes are completely allowed. So long as you don't AFK stuff it's alright.

I Angra I · Dec 15, 2009, 05:52 PM // 17:52

It's not illegal. If there were ever a live tournament again or something though (lol yeah right) maybe then they'd disallow it, but other than that it's fine.

Most decent gvg monks just manually swap sets for casts though because they're practiced at it.

its bad to sin · Dec 15, 2009, 06:10 PM // 18:10

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Originally Posted by I Angra I

It's not illegal. If there were ever a live tournament again or something though (lol yeah right) maybe then they'd disallow it, but other than that it's fine.

Most decent gvg monks just manually swap sets for casts though because they're practiced at it.

yea for the most part the did practice it, but there is some that you can easily tell did macro it.

Demonlord Matt · Dec 15, 2009, 10:08 PM // 22:08

cant u just press esc? pretty sure that cancels actions

Bob Slydell · Dec 15, 2009, 10:23 PM // 22:23

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Originally Posted by Eragon Zarroc

technically, it's enhancing ur reaction time using automation and should not be allowed, but there isn't really any way that it can be detected with 100% certainty.

They already stated that if it helps you at the computer, it's fine, if it plays the game for you while you are not at the computer, it is not ok.

You are correct about the detection part though. Anet dosent detect processes or hardware on your PC, they just look at your actions and how they are performed being sent to the server. They look for afk drunkard bots that click beers every EXACT amount of seconds and bots that run out of towns and click each sign post to move each time and do each c-space 123 123 over and over exactly the same every time to kill things.

Rocky Rockstar · Dec 15, 2009, 10:47 PM // 22:47

its illegal! call the authorities!

Killed u man · Dec 15, 2009, 11:21 PM // 23:21

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Originally Posted by its bad to sin

yea for the most part the did practice it, but there is some that you can easily tell did macro it.

I doubt it. Sure, alot of people in high-end PvP do stuff which seems doubtfull at times, but being able to tell someone is using a bot to swap?

The interrupt bot, sure it is out there, so is certain other tools you can find on the more underground GW websites, but there is no destinct way to tell someone is using a macro to weapon swap...

Quaker · Dec 16, 2009, 06:40 PM // 18:40

Just to be clear on this - "illegal" is not the same as "against the EULA". The police are not involved.

We should use the terms "allowed" and "not allowed" rather than "legal" and "illegal". The only way in which "legality" is involved is that it is legal for ANet to take action against you (such as a ban) if you break the terms of the EULA.

Anyway, iirc ANet does not "support" the use of macros. Which basically means that if you have problems with macros, don't whine to them. They also reserve the right to enforce the terms of the EULA if the use of a macro results in something that is against the EULA. Most common macros won't be a problem.

Dec 15, 2009, 04:32 PM // 16:32	#1
its bad to sin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: probably behind you Guild: Mercenaries Of Grenth [MoG] Profession: P/W	is this legal??? so i was watching some GVGs and it seems like some monks do it but im not sure if its aginst the rules or not. I have a prgram on my computer where i can make 1 button do multiple things. So my question is can i make 1 button cancel the action so i can switch to a wepon set really quick then use a skill all by pressing 1 button, is that aginst any rules? NOTE: i did not have to download anything for this as it was already on my computer when i bought it.

Dec 16, 2009, 06:40 PM // 18:40	#13
Quaker Hell's Protector Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Canada Guild: Brothers Disgruntled	Just to be clear on this - "illegal" is not the same as "against the EULA". The police are not involved. We should use the terms "allowed" and "not allowed" rather than "legal" and "illegal". The only way in which "legality" is involved is that it is legal for ANet to take action against you (such as a ban) if you break the terms of the EULA. Anyway, iirc ANet does not "support" the use of macros. Which basically means that if you have problems with macros, don't whine to them. They also reserve the right to enforce the terms of the EULA if the use of a macro results in something that is against the EULA. Most common macros won't be a problem. Last edited by Quaker; Dec 16, 2009 at 06:45 PM // 18:45..

Dec 15, 2009, 04:46 PM // 16:46	#2
IninefingersI Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kansas Guild: Righteous Anarchy [RA] Profession: D/Me	I don't think it's illegal. Most gaming keyboards and mice have macroing capabilities. I believe even the Zboard endorced by Anet does it. If you can do it with those, I don't see why you couldn't do the same thing with something like AutoHotKey.

Dec 15, 2009, 04:57 PM // 16:57	#3
its bad to sin Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: probably behind you Guild: Mercenaries Of Grenth [MoG] Profession: P/W	its actully not even a gaming keyboard its on my laptop but its a program on the laptop that allows me to do it if that makes any difference

Dec 15, 2009, 05:01 PM // 17:01	#4
Eragon Zarroc Atra estern?? ono thelduin Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Madness Incarnate Guild: [Duo] Profession: W/P	technically, it's enhancing ur reaction time using automation and should not be allowed, but there isn't really any way that it can be detected with 100% certainty.

Dec 15, 2009, 05:08 PM // 17:08	#5
IninefingersI Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Kansas Guild: Righteous Anarchy [RA] Profession: D/Me	I wouldn't worry about it if I was you. If they were worried about people running simple macros, 90% of the people in HB would have been banned.

Dec 15, 2009, 05:48 PM // 17:48	#6
Dzjudz Furnace Stoker Join Date: Jun 2005 Guild: gwpvx.com/user:dzjudz	Macros such as the OP describes are completely allowed. So long as you don't AFK stuff it's alright.

Dec 15, 2009, 05:52 PM // 17:52	#7
I Angra I Krytan Explorer Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Napa, CA Guild: Inadequately Equipped [GeAr] Profession: R/N	It's not illegal. If there were ever a live tournament again or something though (lol yeah right) maybe then they'd disallow it, but other than that it's fine. Most decent gvg monks just manually swap sets for casts though because they're practiced at it.

Dec 15, 2009, 10:08 PM // 22:08	#9
Demonlord Matt Academy Page Join Date: May 2009 Guild: Alliance Of Fides [AoF] Profession: W/D	cant u just press esc? pretty sure that cancels actions

Dec 15, 2009, 10:47 PM // 22:47	#11
Rocky Rockstar Frost Gate Guardian Join Date: Jan 2008 Profession: W/	its illegal! call the authorities!